catholic answers forum -- The Holy Spirit guides the Church to understand the Scriptures, not individual believers (which idea is at the heart of sola fide which Luther invented to justify his revolt). so did the translaters get it wrong??

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#16       Today, 2:51 pm

LPS  Junior Member   Join Date: September 12, 2010 Location: Central Iowa Posts: 301 Religion: Catholic

Re: Should I joing a non-denominational Bible Study Group??? Quote: Originally Posted by PietroPaolo  The Holy Spirit guides the Church to understand the Scriptures, not individual believers. I've never heard that before, and doesn't sound quite right to me. If that were the case, why wouldn't the Pope alone be given the gift of the Holy Spirit? Why are all believers given the gift of the Spirit dwelling within? Of course if my understanding is opposed to Church teaching I surrender my own and hold fast to the Church. But the Holy Spirit often speaks to me as I read Scriptures each day. Can you show me anything in official doctrine that plainly states that the Holy Spirit does not guide individuals to understanding Scriptures? __________________ Read the Catholic Bible in a Year ... a clickable reading plan that you can start any time!

#17       Today, 3:03 pm

JohnnyK  Forum Supporter   Join Date: November 14, 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 404 Religion: Catholic

Re: Should I joing a non-denominational Bible Study Group??? No--Find a catholic one, or join a men's or women's group and listen to catholic answers and watch EWTN __________________ Too Blessed to be stressed

#18       Today, 3:21 pm

jmcrae  Forum Elder   Join Date: September 7, 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 34,709 Religion: Catholic

Re: Should I joing a non-denominational Bible Study Group??? Quote: Originally Posted by LPS  I've never heard that before, and doesn't sound quite right to me. If that were the case, why wouldn't the Pope alone be given the gift of the Holy Spirit? Why are all believers given the gift of the Spirit dwelling within? Of course if my understanding is opposed to Church teaching I surrender my own and hold fast to the Church. But the Holy Spirit often speaks to me as I read Scriptures each day. Can you show me anything in official doctrine that plainly states that the Holy Spirit does not guide individuals to understanding Scriptures? The Holy Spirit gives us the gifts of wisdom and understanding, but we are not expected to read the Bible without the guidance of the Church - that's what the Church is there for, and why the Holy Spirit empowered the Church at Pentecost. The Holy Spirit doesn't come to us to teach us what the Church is supposed to be teaching us, but rather, to give us the receptivity of mind and humility to be able to receive the teachings without disputing or doubting them. __________________ According to Quentin Tarentino, (Kill Bill Volume 2) Clark Kent is Superman's opinion of the human race. It occurs to me that, using the same logic, Jesus of Nazareth is God's.  Tiber Swim Team - Class of 2001

#19       Today, 3:41 pm

rubbberneck  Trial Membership   Join Date: August 25, 2014 Posts: 1 Religion: christian

Re: Should I joing a non-denominational Bible Study Group??? Quote: Originally Posted by PietroPaolo  The bold part above is a good example of a Catholic swallowing a Protestant idea without even noticing it (which is why you shouldn't spend 3 years studying the Bible with them unless you are already well formed in the Faith). The Holy Spirit guides the Church to understand the Scriptures, not individual believers (which idea is at the heart of sola fide which Luther invented to justify his revolt). so did the translaters get it wrong?? But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the ... 1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him ... /1_john/2-27.htm Bible Hub But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don't need .. . For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is ... And if The Anointing will remain with you which you have received from him, .... revelation and doctrine, for the whole Gospel was come by Jesus Christ, and Thanks -- i have not seen any one define the limitation fo the Holy Spirit like this -- it eliminates all of Saint Paul writings-- especally -- 1 cor 12 and 1 cor 14- and ephesians - Ephesians 4:5 states there is "one Lord, one faith, one baptism." Some Christians interpret this to mean that a single denomination (with its beliefs, doctrines, and practices) constitutes the "one true faith." Other Christians interpret this to mean that a group of denominations (with their collective beliefs, doctrines, and practices, which are sometimes different or even contradictory) constitutes a collective "one true faith."-